We received the following through email and thought some of you maybe interested. What do you think?
-Pejabat YB Khalid Samad-
Dear YB Khalid,
I think by now there are a host of comment on the unity govt issue, PAS call for a ban on SIS, your President condemning the 30% bumi requirement abolition and also selling of alcohol in S. Alam. For you info i am a non Muslim and had been a life long supporter of the opposition and obviously supported Pakatan last March. A combination of disgust for UMNO's arrogance, the impotence of their side kicks such as the MCA, MIC and Gerakan and aslo finally we (the non racial moderate voters) though that PKR, DAP and PAS speaking AND thinking as one ensure they lost the 2 third in Parliament and also 5 states. PAS slogan of "PAS for All" and your visit to a church soon after your win gave us hope that Pakatan is the original representative of One Malaysia, not them.
Boy, how things could have been so different after only 1 year. First we have your President and his Deputy wanting a Unity Govt with UMNO which ensures only membership for Malay Muslims only. Them a motion to ban SIS submitted by YOUR division. Whatever spin that your party try to put on this 2 issues, we the voters are sometimes smarter than you think and its hard to believe that the they just want to "talk" to UMNO and as for the motion its just "wrong wording" or something to that effect.
Obviously there are a great number of people in your party who thinks that they can now go do it alone or work with UMNO to capture the govt thus able to leave about half the rakyat out of the picture, the very same people who with the help of your DAP and PKR partners, supported PAS. The same people who had NEVER even THINK of supporting PAS in the past is now doing so because we believe that PAS had a newer, more progressive generation of leaders such as your self and we think to ourselves, 'boy finally a genuine 2 party system for Malaysia". How ironic that it takes the revered Tok Guru, a 80 year old leader to knock some senses into you guys, and that was barely enough.
I hope your party leaders and yourself please take a minute and reexamine what your REALLY mean by PAS for All and explain again to the people. Since all of you guys claim to be God fearing people, the last time i checked, in the eyes of God, misleading the people is considered a sin.
A very disappointed supporter.
S.L. Chan
-Pejabat YB Khalid Samad-
Dear YB Khalid,
I think by now there are a host of comment on the unity govt issue, PAS call for a ban on SIS, your President condemning the 30% bumi requirement abolition and also selling of alcohol in S. Alam. For you info i am a non Muslim and had been a life long supporter of the opposition and obviously supported Pakatan last March. A combination of disgust for UMNO's arrogance, the impotence of their side kicks such as the MCA, MIC and Gerakan and aslo finally we (the non racial moderate voters) though that PKR, DAP and PAS speaking AND thinking as one ensure they lost the 2 third in Parliament and also 5 states. PAS slogan of "PAS for All" and your visit to a church soon after your win gave us hope that Pakatan is the original representative of One Malaysia, not them.
Boy, how things could have been so different after only 1 year. First we have your President and his Deputy wanting a Unity Govt with UMNO which ensures only membership for Malay Muslims only. Them a motion to ban SIS submitted by YOUR division. Whatever spin that your party try to put on this 2 issues, we the voters are sometimes smarter than you think and its hard to believe that the they just want to "talk" to UMNO and as for the motion its just "wrong wording" or something to that effect.
Obviously there are a great number of people in your party who thinks that they can now go do it alone or work with UMNO to capture the govt thus able to leave about half the rakyat out of the picture, the very same people who with the help of your DAP and PKR partners, supported PAS. The same people who had NEVER even THINK of supporting PAS in the past is now doing so because we believe that PAS had a newer, more progressive generation of leaders such as your self and we think to ourselves, 'boy finally a genuine 2 party system for Malaysia". How ironic that it takes the revered Tok Guru, a 80 year old leader to knock some senses into you guys, and that was barely enough.
I hope your party leaders and yourself please take a minute and reexamine what your REALLY mean by PAS for All and explain again to the people. Since all of you guys claim to be God fearing people, the last time i checked, in the eyes of God, misleading the people is considered a sin.
A very disappointed supporter.
S.L. Chan
Comments
I share the same thoughts with S.L.Chan.
PAS disappointed me.
walaupun sy pun tidak senang dgn sesetengah "perangai" dap dan pkr, namun email di atas adalah berkaitan PAS dan sy amat setuju dgn en s.l.chan.
kecewa terhadap isu UG yg di mainkan oleh sesetengah pimpinan PAS amat pedih utk ahli PAS spt saya dan ramai lagi.
perkara ini di mainkan oleh umno semasa manik urai dan di tempat lain telah kelirukan ramai ahli PAS dan org atas pagar termakan dan telah mula mengkritik tgna dan pimpinan lain spt yb sendiri.
percayala sekiranya UG ini jadi,saya akan mengetuai ahli ahli di tempat saya akan keluar parti dan jadi tidak berparti.senarai akan sy fax kan di ibupejabat PAS dgn nama,no ahli dan no tel., dan akan fax ke merata media
However, PAS has to be reminded that the Free People (also known as non-muslims)in the past 5 decades have been adopting the line of "Better the devil that you know (corrupted UMNO) that the one you do not (PAS hardliners - aka Talibans).
As long as we do not see the success of any Islamic state around the world, the Free People are would not be willing citizens in one.
It's not that we are against the religion. It's that we do not want to live in a failed state.
and for that to happen, only member of Pas can help us to realise this dream...
Refer to your remarks on the letter, me as Malay Muslim would like to share my 2 cents opinion.
1) There is a different between Malay & Muslim…. If a Malay, they would think from racist perception…. Malay supremacy… As a Muslim…. They believe in ‘God’ fearing… So in M’sia context… there is different between UMNO & PAS… we fear Allah more than ordinary UMNO… If we fear Allah more….. we as PAS, would not do what Allah has forbidden.. such corruption, power abuse, distributing wealth among cronies, racist etc…
2) On Unity Govt, my view was that our leader has set conditions that the talk only could proceed with the attendance of others Pakatan Rakyat members.. however.. UMNO has spun the issues that only to cater only for Malay Unity… As I remembered the idea of Unity Govt was voiced out during Tun Abdullah’s time…
3) On SIS, my view was that it was purely on Islam’s matters, religious matters… we just suggested that, if what SIS is strictly followed what our Allah, our Prophet’s way… no way, PAS would like to ban them.. is just that.. if they didn’t comply what our Allah, our Prophet’s way, so we requested the appropriate authorities to take action… that all… if SIS still resisted.. most probably, they’ve to change their name …
For example… everyone of us is working either as employee or make own business, sure our companies or the businessman has set some precedent, rules or regulation.. just to ensure their workers have to comply with it…
Same as Islam… our ‘Creator’ has set the terms via Al-Quran and Al-Hadis… so for cases for non-compliance with it, surely we need to take action on it…
4) To resolve it, I believe that.. currently, the Pakatan’s members is still in level of understanding phase with other components.. please give time… it was not even 5 years.. please give chance before next election..
To conclude that, I would rather place my hope on those types of people rather than most corrupted people… for the past 50 years, we’ve robbed in daylight… sure we don’t these thing will continue for another 50 years…
My 2 cents opinion
matmantau
The guy makes alot of sense.PAS was suppose to bring the nons closer to islam like how YB Nizar have done in perak but all he got was accusation of being a DAP agent and puppet of DAP.Some in PAS is hell bent on doing the opposite in scaring and chasing the nons away from islam.What was their logic in wanting to join forces with an evil regime like umno?Racist to the core,is this what examplerary muslim leaders are suppose to be?I am hugely disapointed with the party leadership like many others but the most dissapointing thing is that they have failed the party,failed the people of all races that had huge hopes in them,they have failed in their mission in promoting islam to the nons.
I sent a comment earlier this morning but it is not visible in your blog.maybe yb busy.I have sent another just a few momment ago.If you publish my earlier comment please ignore my second as they are simmilar.thank you and have a good day.
salam.
Sahutan 'PAS For All' cuma satu 'propaganda' untuk mendapatkan undi bukan Muslim, tidak lebih dari itu.
Kalau untuk memahami dengan lebih teliti lagi kenapa PAS sebenarnya bukan untuk semua, baca saja rencana blog ini: "Parti PAS dan slogannya "PAS Untuk Semua": satu penilaian kritikal".
Ringkas kata:
1. Kenapa ada golongan nasionalis Melayu ultra dalam PAS seperti Hadi Awang dan Nasharuddin yang lebih mirip pemimpin UMNO?
2. Kalau tidak pun, adakah PAS satu parti yang benar-benar menerima masyarakat majmuk atau ianya satu parti yang mengutamakan satu agama lebih dari agama lain, sebagaimana UMNO mengutamakan satu kaum lebih dari kaum-kaum lain?
3. Kenapa PAS tidak menerima orang bukan Muslim sebagai ahli parti yang sah kalau benar PAS itu untuk semua?
Fikir-fikirkanlah...
Kenapa isu yang berunsurkan UG ni di ungkitkan lagi? Saya sungguh terharu melihat YB yang nampak terang-terang membuka gelanggang untuk "Penyokong" PAS yang merasakan dia lebih hebat daripda ulama' untuk memberikan pandangan yang "kurang bijaksana". Cukuplah! Marilah kita bersifat lapang dada. Mari kita menginsafi diri kita dan menghitung amal kita adakan tindakan kita sekarang ini mengutungkan parti atau tidak.
saya berpendapat Saudara Chan perlu di berikan penjelasan bukannya meng"Ya"kan hanya kerana kebencian kepada seseorang pemimpin. Saya juga berpendapat PAS tidak perlu mempunyai penyokong seperti Mohd yang tidak faham apa yang di perjuangkan PAS dan yang menyedihkan lagi tidak berlapang dada. Fikir2lah kalau kamu seorang pejuang Islam yang sejati.
Walahulam
Man shah Alam
YB kene sedar, YB bukan hero atau superman, xsemua boleh dipenuhi, cukup setakat ikhtiar.. YB xperlu ada rs takut xdpt sokongan.. jgn leka.
YB org Islam, YB tentu phm dan yakin Islam itu adil.. mereka xphm Islam itu adil..adil utk semua, bkn adil utk Cina aje..
Harap YB dpt kembali kpd perjuangan PAS, keadaan YB skrg hanya merugikan YB sdr dan jamaah..
p/s: seelum siar adalah lebih balik kolib minta penjelasan apa yg mereka faham dgn pas4all dan beri penjelasan jika kolib dgn mereka berbeza kefahaman, jka sama apakan dayo
PAS cakap semacam, bikin semacam.
Satu lagi, PAS tu tak beza dengan UMNO. UMNO tu perjuangkan kebesaran satu kaum. PAS tu perjuangkan kebesaran hanya satu agama.
Kalau PAS benar-benar hebat, mengapa PAS tidak menggalakan persahabatan dan persaudaraan sesama manusia dan bukan mengikut garis agama?
Selagi PAS memperjuangkan pentadbiran mengikut satu agama (berbanding pentadbiran yang mengikut prinsip dan nilai-nilai murni yang menggarisi mana-mana agama) selagi itulah PAS itu parti yang tidak relevan untuk masyarakat Malaysia yang pelbagai kaum dan pelbagai kepercayaan.
Saya melihat sebenarnya PAS masih belum bersedia untuk berpakat.Lebih lebih lagi Presiden dan Timbalan Presiden and all the 'President's Men'.Kalau tak sedia untuk berpakat, maka bawalah PAS keluar dari Pakatan Rakyat.Let PAS go alone,solo.Tapi kalau ahli dalam muktamar sudah mahu berpakat dan ada pemimpin yang tak nak berpakat maka merekalah yang patut go solo, be alone.Jangan pecahkan jemaah.Jika mereka merasakan bibit bibit kemelayuan dan bangsa itu mengatasi Islam maka pergilah join UMNO, lebih mudah berdakwah, tak percaya tanyalah Us.Nakahie Ahmad.Lepas tu boleh bagi berbagai bagai alasan kenapa tidak bersama dengan PAS.Bukan begitu YB ? YB ?
Saya sangat bersetju dgn pendapat tuan. Selama ini saya berfikir dan tertanya-tanya diri saya, dimanakah kurang dan silapnya PAS ini.
Ibnu Shariff has put it simply and clearly. Beautiful!
Semoga mereka, i.e. all the presdent's men, faham.
Saya harap penyokong2 bukan islam, tidak berasa hampa. Bukan semua ahli2 dan pemimpin2 PAS mahu bersekongkol dgn UMNO. Hanya segelintir sahaja.
1. Memang PAS untuk semua, tetapi bukan segala-galanya.
2. Walaupun PAS mengiktiraf hak kebebasan beragama, tidak sama sekali bermaksud semua agama adalah sama bagi PAS.
3. Saya akan kembali mengundi UMNO (BN) pada PRU akan datang sekiranya keyakinan saya terhadap PAS (perkara 1&2) telah goyah.
4. Walaupun saya menghormati rakan2 cina dan india saya, tidak bermaksud saya mesti membenarkan mereka membawa anjing peliharaan mereka ke rumah saya.
5. Kadangkala saya melihat mereka ini sedang memperdaya PAS kononnya mereka bukan 'racial', tapi lihatlah di kedah, isu babi dijadikan isu racial kpd mereka.
6. Kelihatan mereka belum berpuashati dengan faedah yang mereka telah nikmati dari kedua-dua pihak BN & PR. Mereka terus 'bargain' seolah 'pembeli' sebenar walhal mereka hanya menunggu kita menggadaikan maruah kita sebelum langkah seterusnya.
7. Bolehkah mereka menyetujui 'hudud' dilaksanakan kepada orang Islam sedangkan pengisytiharan negaran islam pun dibantah oleh mereka.
8. PAS perlu ingat, SEBAHAGIAN BESAR PENYOKONG (ISLAM) MEREKA BERSEDIA MENGUNDI UMNO PADA PRU AKAN DATANG MANAKALA SEBAHAGIAN LAIN BAKAL MEROSAKKAN KERTAS UNDI. MANIK URAU TELAH MEMBUKTIKANNYA.
9. Jika tidak percaya, PAS ikutlah telunjuk Khalid ini dan lihatlah kesannya nanti.
10. Pilihan bagi PAS sebenarnya agak mudah jika merujuk kepada petunjuk al-Quran.
Salleh
bila baca komen saudara-saudara semua , ada betulnya.Camne pun , kite ni sebahgian besarnya baru celek dgn politik malaysia yg selama ni kite tak perasan. Walhal Umno dan kuncu-kuncunya dah berpuluh tahun bermain dgnnya - dah kaya raya , jual sana jual sini , makan sana makan sini. tak ada duit buat projek baru utk rakyat kononnya , lebihan berlambak , projek entah kemana. HA , HA ... Kite kena beberapa isu yg berbeza pendapat dah kelam kabut , merajuk sana - sini. Umno kaya sana-sini. APE DAPAT ?? Sebelum ni ada segelintir yg berjuang utk keadilan - baik PAS,DAP dan individu tertentu - kena ISA dan macam lagi. Kite baru kena "wake up call " cepat nak melatah , SABAR BRO 3X !!!. Perjuangan kite utk keadilan semua bukan utk segelintir macam UMNO . Geli bila nak sebut UMNO ni'. Camne pun PIMPINAN dlm PR kena jelas dan ikhlas. KHALIFAH tu untuk memimpin dan membela semua rakyat bukan satu kaum saja - jadi kite 'push' pimpinan kite , tukar bila perlu. LAWAN TETAP LAWAN - kalah tak pe , keadilan tetap keadilan - Insya'allah . - HAQ
ok, first of all, response to that email. UG is not about PAS-UMNO relationship. i always believe YB know this.it's about all parties sit together form a unity govt for the sake of people. its not about malay only party. u keep playing to not tell the the truth so that all people think that way. so mr chan, it's not. u read about other country at such as UK,Germany which already used this system.
PAS is always for all.dont be blind by mainstream media.i think DAP more racial party than PAS.keep on complaining on anything unless they get their benefits.in one PR shud be all parties give n take.pls refer to last DAP kedah movement.where is the genuine 2 party system when all parties in PR cant event unite.
YB, its time to defend PAS when its come to outsiders against us, even to defend someone we dont like in jemaah. not to pour fuel in that fire. or just get out of here.
Apa tanggungjawab YB sb YB PAS utk menperjelaskan apakah PAS for All..
adakah sama PAS for All or PAS for YB ?
Orang yang layak untuk dirujuk mengenai UG ini adalah TGHH kerana beliaulah yang melontarkan idea tersebut. Jangan dirujuk kepada sesiapa, bahkan MP Pas sendiri banyak yang keliru. Saya yakin YB Khalid sendiri keliru.
Di sini saya sertakan pautan dari Youtube seperti:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=joJ5khSWNg8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbzAnLxp6us&feature=related
Nilailah sendiri kenyataan TGHH tersebut. Adakah beliau menyebut UG ini hanya untuk UMNO-Pas saja atau melibatkan kesemua parti politik dalam negara. Telitilah dan nilailah dengan adil. Mudah-mudahan TGHH dan Ustaz Nasha tidak lagi menjadi mangsa serangan golongan tak bertanggungjawab.
Saya juga secara peribadi kecewa dengan YB Khalid. YB sepatutnya menjadi agen yang menjelaskan apa itu UG sebenarnya, bukan dengan menyerang dan mengelirukan rakyat. Kini akibatnya orang Muslim dan masyarakat bukan Muslim terutamanya mula mencurigai wadah Islam.
mengapa anda sekalian tidak menghargai sokongan serta kepercayaan daripada kumpulan masyarakat bukan islam yang dulunya tidak pernah diperolehi?
jika keyakinan ini disia-siakan begitu sahaja, adalah lebih susah untuk memperolehinya semula.
harap pucuk pimpinan PAS fikir sejenak dan membuat pendirian tegas dan telus.
Fauzi,seremban
komen-komen dari sinner, sang kelembai jr dan rakan-rakan yg sewaktu dengannya yang hanya tertumpu dgn isu UG semata-mata. So shallow ma..
Yang mereka ni sensitif sangat pasal UG ni pun saya heran. YB Khalid tak cakap apa2 pun dalam posting ni. Dia suruh kita renung2kan. Yg dok kutuk dia macam2 tu dapat apa?
Pasal menerangkan dan membela pendirian PAS kepada non Muslim - memang YB always buat cam tu. Cuba tengok video clipnya di London. korang tu buat ape? Dia buat kerje party. Ntah2 dok peluk bini ajer..
Yang si Sufiyan Putrajaya tu kata kalau PAS mengikut 'telunjuk Khalid ...' Apa???? PAS nak ikut telunjuk Khalid???? Apa ni ko ingat PAS ni apa? Yang nak halau2 khalid Samad keluar PAs ni kenapa? Di berunding dgn UMNO dlm gelap ke? Dia membelakangkan keputusan syura ke? Dia amalkan rasuah ke?
Heran aku!
Tuan2 semua, PAS belum pernah menerima sokongan dan kepercayaan dari kaum2 bukan Islam seperti sekarang. Nak bina kepercayaan takes a long time, nak musnahkan sekejap saja.
Kesimpulannya?
Tak payah lah nak gadoh2. Brand orang itu ini munafik. Halau keluar jemaah lah... Gi buat kerjalah. Tau lah Tuhan nak membalasnya.
kan aku dah geram!
Mr Leman,if you can recall all comments in this site almost 60-70% of the comments asked TGHH and Ust Nasha out of party(or in a way to ask them). i think its fair for me to ask YB to get together again or out of it.in my opinion,YB is too much make damage to party.he create a lot of uneasiness to the PAS supporter instead of being party representatives to elaborate on the issues. sorry to say,that's my opinion so far. right after YB won last PRU,i was so excited with his style and plan as he is the YB i dreamed we PAS have.but day by day,my respect for him fade away miserably.
yes,we havent get supports from non-muslims as much as we get today.and becoz of that fact,i feel responsible to response a bit on his remarks. and put some on YB's continuous irrelevance move.
and mr Leman,i'm party worker.i'm not as good as mr khalid(or you) who can talk,lead,being YB etc. i know my capabilities & limit.but within that limit i serve for Allah and this beloved party.and i believe every single person in the party whatever level he is, is the one to make who we are today.
pleased to have a good discussion.put down your emo weapon.
The Badr wells were located on the gentle slope of the eastern side of a valley called "Yalyal". The western side of the valley was hemmed in by a large hill called 'Aqanqal. When the Muslim army arrived from the east, Muhammad initially chose to form his army at the first well he encountered. Hubab ibn al-Muhdir, however, asked him if this choice was divine instruction (wahyu) or Muhammad's own opinion. When Muhammad responded in the latter, he suggests the Muslims occupy the well closest to the Quraishi army, and block off the other ones. Muhammad accepted this decision and moved right away. According to Tariq Ramadan, this shows that Muhammad was not an autocratic leader, and allowed his followers to contradict him without considering this as a sign of disrespect.
My question: Is/Was UG a divine instruction Or TGHH own personal opinion?
Pas, DAP and Keadilan have all cleared the confusion around the 'UG manipulation' by BN media.
Pakatan surely don't need this kind of "supporter".
y don't confused voters, if genuinely for PR, call up TGHH, U> Nasha, or even Husam and get from them to explain on all issues.
BTW. even YB Khalid's blog feature very prominently the PAS FOR ALL logo........... so y can't u call him up to write something to explain.
coming next GE, SL CHAN clones will be posting ' reverse-psychological' comments to woo away fence-sitters from PAS and PR.
YB Khalid.....u r partly responsible if they succeed.......
tetapi kita di dalam PAS sendiri… kita perlu memikirkan juga isu2 dan implikasi2 berkaitan sebagai kita penganut Islam & berbangsa Melayu… jadi kesimpulannya, PAS perlu berhati2 dlm. apa2 jua tindakan
memahamkan non-muslim ttg Islam..
sy percaya YB sbg org Islam percaya Islam adalah sempurna..
Prinsipnya Islam, diaorang nk terima ker xnk terima ker itu bkn masaalah YB.. yg penting dakwah berterusan, jgn putus asa..
Insyallah, soal buka pintu hati ni bkn urusan YB..
Prinsip Makkal sakti ni xbule pakai sgt,nk guna boleh, tp jgn pula beriman dgnya..
rakyat bertonggeng xkn kita pn ikut sama bertonggeng..kene jd pemimpin yg bertanggungjawab, br la org hormat..
YB kene fikir ni.